Comments for Portland Fiber http://www.portlandfiber.com The Case for Community Fiber in Portland, OR Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:48:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 Comment on Incumbents weigh in predictably by Russell Senior http://www.portlandfiber.com/2011/06/incumbents-weigh-in-predictably/comment-page-1/#comment-20067 Russell Senior Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:48:31 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=133#comment-20067 Just as a followup, I spoke to a Google Fiber representative in the OSCON expo hall last week and he told me that Google is *not* doing open-access in Kansas City, claiming that they couldn't find partners. I don't know anything about the ISP landscape in Kansas City, but in Portland there is still a community of local ISPs that you'd think would love to move customers off of twisted pair. Just as a followup, I spoke to a Google Fiber representative in the OSCON expo hall last week and he told me that Google is *not* doing open-access in Kansas City, claiming that they couldn’t find partners. I don’t know anything about the ISP landscape in Kansas City, but in Portland there is still a community of local ISPs that you’d think would love to move customers off of twisted pair.

]]> Comment on Incumbents weigh in predictably by Russell Senior http://www.portlandfiber.com/2011/06/incumbents-weigh-in-predictably/comment-page-1/#comment-12720 Russell Senior Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:40:41 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=133#comment-12720 I agree in theory. However, in the US regulatory and legal context, there doesn't seem to be as much chance of getting a private company to operate in the way you suggest over the long term. Google is another counter-example, a private company that promises open-access fiber for Kansas City, Kansas, which is why their project was so attractive to so many cities last year. And you are right that the bottom line is really the open-access and not the public ownership. I just think that public ownership is the most reliable and likely way to get open-access. I agree in theory. However, in the US regulatory and legal context, there doesn’t seem to be as much chance of getting a private company to operate in the way you suggest over the long term. Google is another counter-example, a private company that promises open-access fiber for Kansas City, Kansas, which is why their project was so attractive to so many cities last year. And you are right that the bottom line is really the open-access and not the public ownership. I just think that public ownership is the most reliable and likely way to get open-access.

]]> Comment on Incumbents weigh in predictably by Wm Leler http://www.portlandfiber.com/2011/06/incumbents-weigh-in-predictably/comment-page-1/#comment-12719 Wm Leler Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:05:29 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=133#comment-12719 Excellent article, Russell and I agree with everything except for one small point in the last paragraph. I don't think the last mile infrastructure has to be public. It just has to be separate (not owned by a single telco or other communications company). There are plenty of examples where the actual fiber running around the city is owned by a private company run like a utility, who leases out bandwidth on it to a large number of ISPs and other users. Wellington, NZ is but one example. I would be happy either way (the fiber infrastructure either private or public). The main point is that the infrastructure has to be open to any business to use, so that there is competition. Excellent article, Russell and I agree with everything except for one small point in the last paragraph. I don’t think the last mile infrastructure has to be public. It just has to be separate (not owned by a single telco or other communications company).

There are plenty of examples where the actual fiber running around the city is owned by a private company run like a utility, who leases out bandwidth on it to a large number of ISPs and other users. Wellington, NZ is but one example.

I would be happy either way (the fiber infrastructure either private or public). The main point is that the infrastructure has to be open to any business to use, so that there is competition.

]]> Comment on Swedish Woman Has 40Gbps Internet Connection by Michael K. http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/04/swedish-woman-has-40gbps-internet-connection/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Michael K. Wed, 02 Mar 2011 16:57:16 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=243#comment-173 Well, speed of light <i>in a vacuum</i> is the highest speed possible, but speed of light in a glass fiber is slower. So, in theory, it's always possible to improve the fiber material to allow for faster transmission speeds. Well, speed of light in a vacuum is the highest speed possible, but speed of light in a glass fiber is slower. So, in theory, it’s always possible to improve the fiber material to allow for faster transmission speeds.

]]> Comment on First Pour of Gigabit IPA by GOODinPDX http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/04/first-pour-of-gigabit-ipa/comment-page-1/#comment-170 GOODinPDX Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:15:18 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=212#comment-170 Hopworks Gigabit IPA is now open source! Download the recipe to brew your own! http://bit.ly/9nPiTC http://bit.ly/bsqoH4 #pdxfiber Hopworks Gigabit IPA is now open source! Download the recipe to brew your own! http://bit.ly/9nPiTC http://bit.ly/bsqoH4 #pdxfiber

]]> Comment on Gigabit IPA is Headed to Lafayette, Louisiana by GOODinPDX http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/04/gigabit-ipa-is-headed-to-lafayette-louisiana/comment-page-1/#comment-171 GOODinPDX Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:39:45 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=231#comment-171 Hopworks Gigabit IPA is now open source! Download the recipe to brew your own! http://bit.ly/9nPiTC http://bit.ly/bsqoH4 #pdxfiber Hopworks Gigabit IPA is now open source! Download the recipe to brew your own! http://bit.ly/9nPiTC http://bit.ly/bsqoH4 #pdxfiber

]]> Comment on Hopworks Gigabit IPA Announcement by Gigabit IPA is Headed to Lafayette, Louisiana http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/03/hopworks-gigabit-ipa-announcement/comment-page-1/#comment-165 Gigabit IPA is Headed to Lafayette, Louisiana Sun, 18 Apr 2010 07:15:44 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=194#comment-165 [...] because along with representatives from the City of Portland, there will be about 15 gallons of Hopworks Brewing’s Gigabit IPA. The beer, a gift from Portland to Lafayette, is slated to be tapped on Tuesday evening and shared [...] [...] because along with representatives from the City of Portland, there will be about 15 gallons of Hopworks Brewing’s Gigabit IPA. The beer, a gift from Portland to Lafayette, is slated to be tapped on Tuesday evening and shared [...]

]]> Comment on Portland Glassblowers Introducing Google 1 Gbit Fat Pipe by Momentum Glass http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/04/portland-glassblowers-introducing-google-1-gbit-fat-pipe/comment-page-1/#comment-169 Momentum Glass Fri, 02 Apr 2010 22:12:46 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=198#comment-169 We already did this. We don't know who these glass artists are, but we already made this pipe. It will be shown at the Gigabit IPA party this afternoon. Good for them, but we beat them to it. We can send you a pic, it is done. Hell, call us! 503 422 6704. The real news. We already did this. We don’t know who these glass artists are, but we already made this pipe. It will be shown at the Gigabit IPA party this afternoon. Good for them, but we beat them to it. We can send you a pic, it is done. Hell, call us! 503 422 6704. The real news.

]]> Comment on Portland Glassblowers Introducing Google 1 Gbit Fat Pipe by First Pour of Gigabit IPA http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/04/portland-glassblowers-introducing-google-1-gbit-fat-pipe/comment-page-1/#comment-168 First Pour of Gigabit IPA Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:47:12 +0000 http://www.portlandfiber.com/?p=198#comment-168 [...] Skip to content BlogGoogle RFIWhy Portland?About « Portland Glassblowers Introducing Google 1 Gbit Fat Pipe [...] [...] Skip to content BlogGoogle RFIWhy Portland?About « Portland Glassblowers Introducing Google 1 Gbit Fat Pipe [...]

]]> Comment on Ward Cunningham on Community Fiber by Speed isn’t everything, freedom important too http://www.portlandfiber.com/2010/03/ward-cunningham-on-community-fiber/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Speed isn’t everything, freedom important too Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:53:35 +0000 http://www.pdxcommunityfiber.com/?p=38#comment-128 [...] for what they want, not limited to some artificially set of consumption-only activities. Ward Cunningham tells the story of how he changed the world because he could provide a service over a 14,400 baud modem with a $300 [...] [...] for what they want, not limited to some artificially set of consumption-only activities. Ward Cunningham tells the story of how he changed the world because he could provide a service over a 14,400 baud modem with a $300 [...]

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